[gump]

Originally Posted by baduri

Do you still have the 3 cylinder motor polo being offered as the real polo in India ?

3-cylinder engines. Neither hits the sweet spot nor matches the segment benchmarks. But a 3-cylinder mill does not necessarily mean a compromise, With proper tuning and engineering it is capable enough

[otha baadu]

Originally Posted by gump

Great value for money.
Low Maintenance. Its Maruti, so nothing to explain.
Great resale value. Its Maruti again, so nothing to explain.
Good mileage. Average is 18 kmpl for Diesel

Users Feedback

Owners liked:
- Value for money pricing
- High fuel efficiency
- Punchy diesel engine
- Level of standard equipment
- Maruti’s after-sales service

Owners disliked:
- Inconsistent fit & finish
- Strange boot styling
- Cramped space at the back
- Average ride quality

Thanks for the advice

[budmaash]

Originally Posted by saurabh_007

not really Indian Auto market is reliability driven, and fiat ditched that with some sub-standard cars earlier, while Maruti Suzuki is like an all time reliable brand... the people who understand what fiat drove out in past and what they are driving out now is different are the people who choose (the beautifully crafted) linea over (boxes like) dzire...

same happened wen they came with palio its sweet meat if u've ever driven it, but wen they launched it, there was no buyer for a small car priced at 7l wen super selling cars from maruti like zen were available at 4.5l...

Swift, Dzire and Ritz all use Fiat's Multijet engine so if Swift, Dzire and Ritz are reliable, Fiat's cars are also reliable. Also linea has more features like Blue-n-Me etc but still doesn't sell that much.

Originally Posted by baduri

Do you still have the 3 cylinder motor polo being offered as the real polo in India ?

We have 3 models maams

1.2 Petrol - 3 Cylinder
1.2 Diesel - 3 Cylinder
and
1.6 Petrol - 4 Cyliner (the same as in Vento)

Most choose the 3 Cylinder Diesel 'coz of economy it offers.

[speedodude]

nice post , we are a family of 10 its a joint family we have an 1973 matadoor engine amby. now we cant use it for long drives due to lack of proper mechanics . we are luking for a family vehicle we usually go long drives.its time for a change now have seen the market budget below 7lakh.have short listed sumo victa as it is compact can seat 10 unlike others which is bit lengthy .i know sumo is not the best machine but in terms of seatability and comfort is gud can u advice me. and also can u advice me how to find good site for amby related issues so that we can maintain our car.

[gump]

Originally Posted by budmaash

Swift, Dzire and Ritz all use Fiat's Multijet engine so if Swift, Dzire and Ritz are reliable, Fiat's cars are also reliable. Also linea has more features like Blue-n-Me etc but still doesn't sell that much.

Fait has one of the worst After Sales service record, even after tie up with the Tata's the service is no where near average also, except for a few centers. Thats the reason fait cars sell in such a low figures.

Poor Fait. My all time fav car is Palio GTX

[gump]

Originally Posted by speedodude

nice post , we are a family of 10 its a joint family we have an 1973 matadoor engine amby. now we cant use it for long drives due to lack of proper mechanics . we are luking for a family vehicle we usually go long drives.its time for a change now have seen the market budget below 7lakh.have short listed sumo victa as it is compact can seat 10 unlike others which is bit lengthy .i know sumo is not the best machine but in terms of seatability and comfort is gud can u advice me. and also can u advice me how to find good site for amby related issues so that we can maintain our car.

For Me in 7 lac budget :-

1) Xylo (Specious,Comfort,safty (ABS/AirBag) )
2) Sumo Grande (Specious,Comfort,Not sure now its come with ABS)
3) Bolero (Cheap to maintain/front seat comfort/A jeep with AC and PS)

As for the Amby, find a nice mechanic instead of a site.

[budmaash]

Originally Posted by gump

Fait has one of the worst After Sales service record, even after tie up with the Tata's the service is no where near average also, except for a few centers. Thats the reason fait cars sell in such a low figures.

Poor Fait. My all time fav car is Palio GTX

ASS is one thing but just saying that Fiat is not reliable while Maruti is just 'coz it's Maruti is an entirely different thing. That too when Maruti uses Fiat Engines.

btw agree with ASS part. Fiat was/is never a key player and hence never bothered to develop the ASS. Even their Tie Up with Tata is loaded in Fiat's favor.

Originally Posted by speedodude

nice post , we are a family of 10 its a joint family we have an 1973 matadoor engine amby. now we cant use it for long drives due to lack of proper mechanics . we are luking for a family vehicle we usually go long drives.its time for a change now have seen the market budget below 7lakh.have short listed sumo victa as it is compact can seat 10 unlike others which is bit lengthy .i know sumo is not the best machine but in terms of seatability and comfort is gud can u advice me. and also can u advice me how to find good site for amby related issues so that we can maintain our car.

Xylo with eyes closed. If you could have stretched your budget a bit more, would have suggested the Innova.

[gump]

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[baduri]

Originally Posted by gump

3-cylinder engines. Neither hits the sweet spot nor matches the segment benchmarks. But a 3-cylinder mill does not necessarily mean a compromise, With proper tuning and engineering it is capable enough

You bet it wont and is a compromise.
In general, less the cylinder greater the vibrations and less than optimal rpm band.
A 3 cylinder engine has a combustion stroke every 240 degs turn of the crank shaft in comparison to 180 degs with the 4 cylinder and hence the balancing issues.
Spreading out the gear ratios will not compensate this and tuning will increase the stress on its cylinders ( why spend money on tuning when the same xtra money spent will fetch an extra cylinder ? )
Th world over economy motors have standardized on a 4 cylinder inline layout with the higher models going in for a straight or V6 and super luxury on to 8 and the Ferrari types on to 12's.

Originally Posted by budmaash

We have 3 models maams

1.2 Petrol - 3 Cylinder
1.2 Diesel - 3 Cylinder
and
1.6 Petrol - 4 Cyliner (the same as in Vento)

Most choose the 3 Cylinder Diesel 'coz of economy it offers.

How silly, German and VW dont make it a porsche or beemer.
VW is a Toyota or Chevrolet of Europe and I was surprised to see the news on how VW is over booked in India.
Merc then Fiat and then Skoda ( VW owned East European junk ) and then Fiat again and now VW rubbish before being bit again by the Euro rubbish of sexy looks on the outside, some fancy stories on legacy shit and rubbish inside cars. ( counter arguments welcome )

The reliable ex Isuzu diesels of GM or the Toyota B series is where I would plonk my diesel money on.

VW have some good diesel motors on their VW's and Audi's but a 3 cylinder blue motion series for our market looks strange and a rip off. This is their absolute basic diesel plant.

A polo by itself is an economy car in Europe and no GTI to have any value over a Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic ( are they in the same price league ? )

Like buying a cheap Mitsu Lancer/Galant and pretending its an Evo.

[histud_1]

Originally Posted by budmaash

Don't take insurance from the dealer. Ask your agent or search for insurance yourself. Most dealers inflate the insurance and make a cool profit. Sometimes it's inflated to about twice the price you'll pay.

just to add..while taking insurance few things to be kept in mind

1. go for reliable insurance company...most of the private players may offer lucrative deal in the beginning but will make ur life hell in settling the claims....govt companies are much better

2. Check for IDV (Insured Declared Value)...many agents tend to reduce the IDV to offer lesser premium, even some customers do so...totally avoidable

3. Some OEMs (manufacturers) have started getting into tie-ups with insurance companies and the customer does not need to go to any agent...one such scheme is from Maruti called Maruti Insurance...biggest benefit is cashless service at workshops......worth inquiring about